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De Rerum Natura

Author: Lucretius
Translator: William Ellery Leonard
17
Quapropter
qui
materiem
rerum
esse
putarunt

ignem
atque
ex
igni
summam
consistere
solo
,
magno
opere
a
vera
lapsi
ratione
videntur
.
Heraclitus
init
quorum
dux
proelia
primus
,
clarus
ob
obscuram
linguam
magis
inter
inanis

quamde
gravis
inter
Graios
,
qui
vera
requirunt
;
omnia
enim
stolidi
magis
admirantur
amantque
,
inversis
quae
sub
verbis
latitantia
cernunt
,
veraque
constituunt
quae
belle
tangere
possunt

auris
et
lepido
quae
sunt
fucata
sonore
.
Nam
cur
tam
variae
res
possent
esse
,
requiro
,
ex
uno
si
sunt
igni
puroque
creatae
?
nil
prodesset
enim
calidum
denserier
ignem

nec
rare
fieri
,
si
partes
ignis
eandem

naturam
quam
totus
habet
super
ignis
haberent
.
acrior
ardor
enim
conductis
partibus
esset
,
languidior
porro
disiectis
disque
supatis
.
amplius
hoc
fieri
nihil
est
quod
posse
rearis

talibus
in
causis
,
ne
dum
variantia
rerum

tanta
queat
densis
rarisque
ex
ignibus
esse
.
Id
quoque
:
si
faciant
admixtum
rebus
inane
,
denseri
poterunt
ignes
rarique
relinqui
;
sed
quia
multa
sibi
cernunt
contraria
quae
sint

et
fugitant
in
rebus
inane
relinquere
purum
,
ardua
dum
metuunt
,
amittunt
vera
viai

nec
rursum
cernunt
exempto
rebus
inane

omnia
denseri
fierique
ex
omnibus
unum

corpus
,
nil
ab
se
quod
possit
mittere
raptim
,
aestifer
ignis
uti
lumen
iacit
atque
vaporem
,
ut
videas
non
e
stipatis
partibus
esse
.
Quod
si
forte
alia
credunt
ratione
potesse

ignis
in
coetu
stingui
mutareque
corpus
,
scilicet
ex
nulla
facere
id
si
parte
reparcent
,
occidet
ad
nihilum
ni
mirum
funditus
ardor

omnis
et
e
nihilo
fient
quae
cumque
creantur
;
nam
quod
cumque
suis
mutatum
finibus
exit
,
continuo
hoc
mors
est
illius
quod
fuit
ante
.
proinde
aliquid
superare
necesse
est
incolume
ollis
,
ne
tibi
res
redeant
ad
nilum
funditus
omnes

de
nihiloque
renata
vigescat
copia
rerum
.
Nunc
igitur
quoniam
certissima
corpora
quaedam

sunt
,
quae
conservant
naturam
semper
eandem
,
quorum
abitu
aut
aditu
mutatoque
ordine
mutant

naturam
res
et
convertunt
corpora
sese
,
scire
licet
non
esse
haec
ignea
corpora
rerum
.
nil
referret
enim
quaedam
decedere
,
abire

atque
alia
adtribui
mutarique
ordine
quaedam
,
si
tamen
ardoris
naturam
cuncta
tenerent
;
ignis
enim
foret
omnimodis
quod
cumque
crearet
.
verum
,
ut
opinor
,
itast
:
sunt
quaedam
corpora
,
quorum

concursus
motus
ordo
positura
figurae

efficiunt
ignis
mutatoque
ordine
mutant

naturam
neque
sunt
igni
simulata
neque
ulli

praeterea
rei
quae
corpora
mittere
possit

sensibus
et
nostros
adiectu
tangere
tactus
.
dicere
porro
ignem
res
omnis
esse
neque
ullam

rem
veram
in
numero
rerum
constare
nisi
ignem
,
quod
facit
hic
idem
,
perdelirum
esse
videtur
.
nam
contra
sensus
ab
sensibus
ipse
repugnat

et
labefactat
eos
,
unde
omnia
credita
pendent
,
unde
hic
cognitus
est
ipsi
quem
nominat
ignem
;
credit
enim
sensus
ignem
cognoscere
vere
,
cetera
non
credit
,
quae
nilo
clara
minus
sunt
.
quod
mihi
cum
vanum
tum
delirum
esse
videtur
;
quo
referemus
enim
?
quid
nobis
certius
ipsis

sensibus
esse
potest
,
qui
vera
ac
falsa
notemus
?
Praeterea
quare
quisquam
magis
omnia
tollat

et
velit
ardoris
naturam
linquere
solam
,
quam
neget
esse
ignis
,
aliam
tamen
esse
relinquat
?
aequa
videtur
enim
dementia
dicere
utrumque
.

CONFUTATION OF OTHER PHILOSOPHERS
And on such grounds it is that those who held
The stuff of things is fire, and out of fire
Alone the cosmic sum is formed, are seen
Mightily from true reason to have lapsed.
Of whom, chief leader to do battle, comes
That Heraclitus, famous for dark speech
Among the silly, not the serious Greeks
Who search for truth. For dolts are ever prone
That to bewonder and adore which hides
Beneath distorted words, holding that true
Which sweetly tickles in their stupid ears,
Or which is rouged in finely finished phrase.
For how, I ask, can things so varied be,
If formed of fire, single and pure? No whit
'Twould help for fire to be condensed or thinned,
If all the parts of fire did still preserve
But fire's own nature, seen before in gross.
The heat were keener with the parts compressed,
Milder, again, when severed or dispersed-
And more than this thou canst conceive of naught
That from such causes could become; much less
Might earth's variety of things be born
From any fires soever, dense or rare.
This too: if they suppose a void in things,
Then fires can be condensed and still left rare;
But since they see such opposites of thought
Rising against them, and are loath to leave
An unmixed void in things, they fear the steep
And lose the road of truth. Nor do they see,
That, if from things we take away the void,
All things are then condensed, and out of all
One body made, which has no power to dart
Swiftly from out itself not anything-
As throws the fire its light and warmth around,
Giving thee proof its parts are not compact.
But if perhaps they think, in other wise,
Fires through their combinations can be quenched
And change their substance, very well: behold,
If fire shall spare to do so in no part,
Then heat will perish utterly and all,
And out of nothing would the world be formed.
For change in anything from out its bounds
Means instant death of that which was before;
And thus a somewhat must persist unharmed
Amid the world, lest all return to naught,
And, born from naught, abundance thrive anew.
Now since indeed there are those surest bodies
Which keep their nature evermore the same,
Upon whose going out and coming in
And changed order things their nature change,
And all corporeal substances transformed,
'Tis thine to know those primal bodies, then,
Are not of fire. For 'twere of no avail
Should some depart and go away, and some
Be added new, and some be changed in order,
If still all kept their nature of old heat:
For whatsoever they created then
Would still in any case be only fire.
The truth, I fancy, this: bodies there are
Whose clashings, motions, order, posture, shapes
Produce the fire and which, by order changed,
Do change the nature of the thing produced,
And are thereafter nothing like to fire
Nor whatso else has power to send its bodies
With impact touching on the senses' touch.
Again, to say that all things are but fire
And no true thing in number of all things
Exists but fire, as this same fellow says,
Seems crazed folly. For the man himself
Against the senses by the senses fights,
And hews at that through which is all belief,
Through which indeed unto himself is known
The thing he calls the fire. For, though he thinks
The senses truly can perceive the fire,
He thinks they cannot as regards all else,
Which still are palpably as clear to sense-
To me a thought inept and crazy too.
For whither shall we make appeal? for what
More certain than our senses can there be
Whereby to mark asunder error and truth?
Besides, why rather do away with all,
And wish to allow heat only, then deny
The fire and still allow all else to be?-
Alike the madness either way it seems.
18
Quapropter
qui
materiem
rerum
esse
putarunt

ignem
atque
ex
igni
summam
consistere
posse
,
et
qui
principium
gignundis
aera
rebus

constituere
aut
umorem
qui
cumque
putarunt

fingere
res
ipsum
per
se
terramve
creare

omnia
et
in
rerum
naturas
vertier
omnis
,
magno
opere
a
vero
longe
derrasse
videntur
.
adde
etiam
qui
conduplicant
primordia
rerum

aera
iungentes
igni
terramque
liquori
,
et
qui
quattuor
ex
rebus
posse
omnia
rentur

ex
igni
terra
atque
anima
procrescere
et
imbri
.
quorum
Acragantinus
cum
primis
Empedocles
est
,
insula
quem
triquetris
terrarum
gessit
in
oris
,
quam
fluitans
circum
magnis
anfractibus
aequor

Ionium
glaucis
aspargit
virus
ab
undis

angustoque
fretu
rapidum
mare
dividit
undis

Aeoliae
terrarum
oras
a
finibus
eius
.
hic
est
vasta
Charybdis
et
hic
Aetnaea
minantur

murmura
flammarum
rursum
se
colligere
iras
,
faucibus
eruptos
iterum
vis
ut
vomat
ignis

ad
caelumque
ferat
flammai
fulgura
rursum
.
quae
cum
magna
modis
multis
miranda
videtur

gentibus
humanis
regio
visendaque
fertur

rebus
opima
bonis
,
multa
munita
virum
vi
,
nil
tamen
hoc
habuisse
viro
praeclarius
in
se

nec
sanctum
magis
et
mirum
carumque
videtur
.
carmina
quin
etiam
divini
pectoris
eius

vociferantur
et
exponunt
praeclara
reperta
,
ut
vix
humana
videatur
stirpe
creatus
.
Hic
tamen
et
supra
quos
diximus
inferiores

partibus
egregie
multis
multoque
minores
,
quamquam
multa
bene
ac
divinitus
invenientes

ex
adyto
tam
quam
cordis
responsa
dedere

sanctius
et
multo
certa
ratione
magis
quam

Pythia
quae
tripodi
a
Phoebi
lauroque
profatur
,
principiis
tamen
in
rerum
fecere
ruinas

et
graviter
magni
magno
cecidere
ibi
casu
.
Primum
quod
motus
exempto
rebus
inani

constituunt
et
res
mollis
rarasque
relinquunt

aera
solem
ignem
terras
animalia
frugis

nec
tamen
admiscent
in
eorum
corpus
inane
;
deinde
quod
omnino
finem
non
esse
secandis

corporibus
facient
neque
pausam
stare
fragori

nec
prorsum
in
rebus
minimum
consistere
qui
cquam,
cum
videamus
id
extremum
cuiusque
cacumen

esse
quod
ad
sensus
nostros
minimum
esse
videtur
,
conicere
ut
possis
ex
hoc
,
quae
cernere
non
quis

extremum
quod
habent
,
minimum
consistere
rerum
.
Huc
accedit
item
,
quoniam
primordia
rerum

mollia
constituunt
,
quae
nos
nativa
videmus

esse
et
mortali
cum
corpore
,
funditus
ut
qui

debeat
ad
nihilum
iam
rerum
summa
reverti

de
nihiloque
renata
vigescere
copia
rerum
;
quorum
utrumque
quid
a
vero
iam
distet
habebis
.
Deinde
inimica
modis
multis
sunt
atque
veneno

ipsa
sibi
inter
se
;
quare
aut
congressa
peribunt

aut
ita
diffugient
,
ut
tempestate
coacta

fulmina
diffugere
atque
imbris
ventosque
videmus
.

Thus whosoe'er have held the stuff of things
To be but fire, and out of fire the sum,
And whosoever have constituted air
As first beginning of begotten things,
And all whoever have held that of itself
Water alone contrives things, or that earth
Createth all and changes things anew
To divers natures, mightily they seem
A long way to have wandered from the truth.
Add, too, whoever make the primal stuff
Twofold, by joining air to fire, and earth
To water; add who deem that things can grow
Out of the four- fire, earth, and breath, and rain;
As first Empedocles of Acragas,
Whom that three-cornered isle of all the lands
Bore on her coasts, around which flows and flows
In mighty bend and bay the Ionic seas,
Splashing the brine from off their gray-green waves.
Here, billowing onward through the narrow straits,
Swift ocean cuts her boundaries from the shores
Of the Italic mainland. Here the waste
Charybdis; and here Aetna rumbles threats
To gather anew such furies of its flames
As with its force anew to vomit fires,
Belched from its throat, and skyward bear anew
Its lightnings' flash. And though for much she seem
The mighty and the wondrous isle to men,
Most rich in all good things, and fortified
With generous strength of heroes, she hath ne'er
Possessed within her aught of more renown,
Nor aught more holy, wonderful, and dear
Than this true man. Nay, ever so far and pure
The lofty music of his breast divine
Lifts up its voice and tells of glories found,
That scarce he seems of human stock create.
Yet he and those forementioned (known to be
So far beneath him, less than he in all),
Though, as discoverers of much goodly truth,
They gave, as 'twere from out of the heart's own shrine,
Responses holier and soundlier based
Than ever the Pythia pronounced for men
From out the triped and the Delphian laurel,
Have still in matter of first-elements
Made ruin of themselves, and, great men, great
Indeed and heavy there for them the fall:
First, because, banishing the void from things,
They yet assign them motion, and allow
Things soft and loosely textured to exist,
As air, dew, fire, earth, animals, and grains,
Without admixture of void amid their frame.
Next, because, thinking there can be no end
In cutting bodies down to less and less
Nor pause established to their breaking up,
They hold there is no minimum in things;
Albeit we see the boundary point of aught
Is that which to our senses seems its least,
Whereby thou mayst conjecture, that, because
The things thou canst not mark have boundary points,
They surely have their minimums. Then, too,
Since these philosophers ascribe to things
Soft primal germs, which we behold to be
Of birth and body mortal, thus, throughout,
The sum of things must be returned to naught,
And, born from naught, abundance thrive anew-
Thou seest how far each doctrine stands from truth.
And, next, these bodies are among themselves
In many ways poisons and foes to each,
Wherefore their congress will destroy them quite
Or drive asunder as we see in storms
Rains, winds, and lightnings all asunder fly.
19
Denique
quattuor
ex
rebus
si
cuncta
creantur

atque
in
eas
rursum
res
omnia
dissoluuntur
,
qui
magis
illa
queunt
rerum
primordia
dici

quam
contra
res
illorum
retroque
putari
?
alternis
gignuntur
enim
mutantque
colorem

et
totam
inter
se
naturam
tempore
ab
omni
.
sin
ita
forte
putas
ignis
terraeque
coire

corpus
et
aerias
auras
roremque
liquoris
,
nil
in
concilio
naturam
ut
mutet
eorum
,
nulla
tibi
ex
illis
poterit
res
esse
creata
,
non
animans
,
non
exanimo
cum
corpore
,
ut
arbos
;
quippe
suam
quicque
in
coetu
variantis
acervi

naturam
ostendet
mixtusque
videbitur
aer

cum
terra
simul
et
quodam
cum
rore
manere
.
at
primordia
gignundis
in
rebus
oportet

naturam
clandestinam
caecamque
adhibere
,
emineat
ne
quid
,
quod
contra
pugnet
et
obstet

quo
minus
esse
queat
proprie
quodcumque
creatur
.
Quin
etiam
repetunt
a
caelo
atque
ignibus
eius

et
primum
faciunt
ignem
se
vertere
in
auras

aeris
,
hinc
imbrem
gigni
terramque
creari

ex
imbri
retroque
a
terra
cuncta
reverti
,
umorem
primum
,
post
aera
,
deinde
calorem
,
nec
cessare
haec
inter
se
mutare
,
meare

a
caelo
ad
terram
,
de
terra
ad
sidera
mundi
.
quod
facere
haud
ullo
debent
primordia
pacto
.
immutabile
enim
quiddam
superare
necessest
,
ne
res
ad
nihilum
redigantur
funditus
omnes
;
nam
quod
cumque
suis
mutatum
finibus
exit
,
continuo
hoc
mors
est
illius
quod
fuit
ante
.
quapropter
quoniam
quae
paulo
diximus
ante

in
commutatum
veniunt
,
constare
necessest

ex
aliis
ea
,
quae
nequeant
convertier
usquam
,
ne
tibi
res
redeant
ad
nilum
funditus
omnis
;
quin
potius
tali
natura
praedita
quaedam

corpora
constituas
,
ignem
si
forte
crearint
,
posse
eadem
demptis
paucis
paucisque
tributis
,
ordine
mutato
et
motu
,
facere
aeris
auras
,
sic
alias
aliis
rebus
mutarier
omnis
?
'
At
manifesta
palam
res
indicat
'
inquis
'
in
auras

aeris
e
terra
res
omnis
crescere
alique
;
et
nisi
tempestas
indulget
tempore
fausto

imbribus
,
ut
tabe
nimborum
arbusta
vacillent
,
solque
sua
pro
parte
fovet
tribuitque
calorem
,
crescere
non
possint
fruges
arbusta
animantis
. '
scilicet
et
nisi
nos
cibus
aridus
et
tener
umor

adiuvet
,
amisso
iam
corpore
vita
quoque
omnis

omnibus
e
nervis
atque
ossibus
exsoluatur
;
adiutamur
enim
dubio
procul
atque
alimur
nos

certis
ab
rebus
,
certis
aliae
atque
aliae
res
.
ni
mirum
quia
multa
modis
communia
multis

multarum
rerum
in
rebus
primordia
mixta

sunt
,
ideo
variis
variae
res
rebus
aluntur
.
atque
eadem
magni
refert
primordia
saepe

cum
quibus
et
quali
positura
contineantur

et
quos
inter
se
dent
motus
accipiantque
;
namque
eadem
caelum
mare
terras
flumina
solem

constituunt
,
eadem
fruges
arbusta
animantis
,
verum
aliis
alioque
modo
commixta
moventur
.
quin
etiam
passim
nostris
in
versibus
ipsis

multa
elementa
vides
multis
communia
verbis
,
cum
tamen
inter
se
versus
ac
verba
necessest

confiteare
et
re
et
sonitu
distare
sonanti
.
tantum
elementa
queunt
permutato
ordine
solo
;
at
rerum
quae
sunt
primordia
,
plura
adhibere

possunt
unde
queant
variae
res
quaeque
creari
.

Thus too, if all things are create of four,
And all again dissolved into the four,
How can the four be called the primal germs
Of things, more than all things themselves be thought,
By retroversion, primal germs of them?
For ever alternately are both begot,
With interchange of nature and aspect
From immemorial time. But if percase
Thou think'st the frame of fire and earth, the air,
The dew of water can in such wise meet
As not by mingling to resign their nature,
From them for thee no world can be create-
No thing of breath, no stock or stalk of tree:
In the wild congress of this varied heap
Each thing its proper nature will display,
And air will palpably be seen mixed up
With earth together, unquenched heat with water.
But primal germs in bringing things to birth
Must have a latent, unseen quality,
Lest some outstanding alien element
Confuse and minish in the thing create
Its proper being.
But these men begin
From heaven, and from its fires; and first they feign
That fire will turn into the winds of air,
Next, that from air the rain begotten is,
And earth created out of rain, and then
That all, reversely, are returned from earth-
The moisture first, then air thereafter heat-
And that these same ne'er cease in interchange,
To go their ways from heaven to earth, from earth
Unto the stars of the aethereal world-
Which in no wise at all the germs can do.
Since an immutable somewhat still must be,
Lest all things utterly be sped to naught;
For change in anything from out its bounds
Means instant death of that which was before.
Wherefore, since those things, mentioned heretofore,
Suffer a changed state, they must derive
From others ever unconvertible,
Lest an things utterly return to naught.
Then why not rather presuppose there be
Bodies with such a nature furnished forth
That, if perchance they have created fire,
Can still (by virtue of a few withdrawn,
Or added few, and motion and order changed)
Fashion the winds of air, and thus all things
Forevermore be interchanged with all?
"But facts in proof are manifest," thou sayest,
"That all things grow into the winds of air
And forth from earth are nourished, and unless
The season favour at propitious hour
With rains enough to set the trees a-reel
Under the soak of bulking thunderheads,
And sun, for its share, foster and give heat,
No grains, nor trees, nor breathing things can grow."
True- and unless hard food and moisture soft
Recruited man, his frame would waste away,
And life dissolve from out his thews and bones;
For out of doubt recruited and fed are we
By certain things, as other things by others.
Because in many ways the many germs
Common to many things are mixed in things,
No wonder 'tis that therefore divers things
By divers things are nourished. And, again,
Often it matters vastly with what others,
In what positions the primordial germs
Are bound together, and what motions, too,
They give and get among themselves; for these
Same germs do put together sky, sea, lands,
Rivers, and sun, grains, trees, and breathing things,
But yet commixed they are in divers modes
With divers things, forever as they move.
Nay, thou beholdest in our verses here
Elements many, common to many worlds,
Albeit thou must confess each verse, each word
From one another differs both in sense
And ring of sound- so much the elements
Can bring about by change of order alone.
But those which are the primal germs of things
Have power to work more combinations still,
Whence divers things can be produced in turn.
20
Nunc
et
Anaxagorae
scrutemur
homoeomerian

quam
Grai
memorant
nec
nostra
dicere
lingua

concedit
nobis
patrii
sermonis
egestas
,
sed
tamen
ipsam
rem
facilest
exponere
verbis
.
principio
,
rerum
quam
dicit
homoeomerian
,
ossa
videlicet
e
pauxillis
atque
minutis

ossibus
hic
et
de
pauxillis
atque
minutis

visceribus
viscus
gigni
sanguenque
creari

sanguinis
inter
se
multis
coeuntibus
guttis

ex
aurique
putat
micis
consistere
posse

aurum
et
de
terris
terram
concrescere
parvis
,
ignibus
ex
ignis
,
umorem
umoribus
esse
,
cetera
consimili
fingit
ratione
putatque
.
nec
tamen
esse
ulla
de
parte
in
rebus
inane

concedit
neque
corporibus
finem
esse
secandis
.
quare
in
utraque
mihi
pariter
ratione
videtur

errare
atque
illi
,
supra
quos
diximus
ante
.

Now let us also take for scrutiny
The homeomeria of Anaxagoras,
So called by Greeks, for which our pauper-speech
Yieldeth no name in the Italian tongue,
Although the thing itself is not o'erhard
For explanation. First, then, when he speaks
Of this homeomeria of things, he thinks
Bones to be sprung from littlest bones minute,
And from minute and littlest flesh all flesh,
And blood created out of drops of blood,
Conceiving gold compact of grains of gold,
And earth concreted out of bits of earth,
Fire made of fires, and water out of waters,
Feigning the like with all the rest of stuff.
Yet he concedes not any void in things,
Nor any limit to cutting bodies down.
Wherefore to me he seems on both accounts
To err no less than those we named before.
21
Adde
quod
inbecilla
nimis
primordia
fingit
;
si
primordia
sunt
,
simili
quae
praedita
constant

natura
atque
ipsae
res
sunt
aequeque
laborant

et
pereunt
,
neque
ab
exitio
res
ulla
refrenat
.
nam
quid
in
oppressu
valido
durabit
eorum
,
ut
mortem
effugiat
,
leti
sub
dentibus
ipsis
?
ignis
an
umor
an
aura
?
quid
horum
?
sanguen
an
ossa
?
nil
ut
opinor
,
ubi
ex
aequo
res
funditus
omnis

tam
mortalis
erit
quam
quae
manifesta
videmus

ex
oculis
nostris
aliqua
vi
victa
perire
.
at
neque
reccidere
ad
nihilum
res
posse
neque
autem

crescere
de
nihilo
testor
res
ante
probatas
.
Praeterea
quoniam
cibus
auget
corpus
alitque
,
scire
licet
nobis
venas
et
sanguen
et
ossa

* * *
sive
cibos
omnis
commixto
corpore
dicent

esse
et
habere
in
se
nervorum
corpora
parva

ossaque
et
omnino
venas
partisque
cruoris
,
fiet
uti
cibus
omnis
et
aridus
et
liquor
ipse

ex
alienigenis
rebus
constare
putetur
,
ossibus
et
nervis
sanieque
et
sanguine
mixto
.
Praeterea
quae
cumque
e
terra
corpora
crescunt
,
si
sunt
in
terris
,
terram
constare
necessest

ex
alienigenis
,
quae
terris
exoriuntur
.
transfer
item
,
totidem
verbis
utare
licebit
:
in
lignis
si
flamma
latet
fumusque
cinisque
,
ex
alienigenis
consistant
ligna
necessest
,
ex
alienigenis
,
quae
lignis
exoriuntur
.

Add too: these germs he feigns are far too frail-
If they be germs primordial furnished forth
With but same nature as the things themselves,
And travail and perish equally with those,
And no rein curbs them from annihilation.
For which will last against the grip and crush
Under the teeth of death? the fire? the moist?
Or else the air? which then? the blood? the bones?
No one, methinks, when every thing will be
At bottom as mortal as whate'er we mark
To perish by force before our gazing eyes.
But my appeal is to the proofs above
That things cannot fall back to naught, nor yet
From naught increase. And now again, since food
Augments and nourishes the human frame,
'Tis thine to know our veins and blood and bones
And thews are formed of particles unlike
To them in kind; or if they say all foods
Are of mixed substance having in themselves
Small bodies of thews, and bones, and also veins
And particles of blood, then every food,
Solid or liquid, must itself be thought
As made and mixed of things unlike in kind-
Of bones, of thews, of ichor and of blood.
Again, if all the bodies which upgrow
From earth, are first within the earth, then earth
Must be compound of alien substances.
Which spring and bloom abroad from out the earth.
Transfer the argument, and thou may'st use
The selfsame words: if flame and smoke and ash
Still lurk unseen within the wood, the wood
Must be compound of alien substances
Which spring from out the wood.
22
Linquitur
hic
quaedam
latitandi
copia
tenvis
,
id
quod
Anaxagoras
sibi
sumit
,
ut
omnibus
omnis

res
putet
inmixtas
rebus
latitare
,
sed
illud

apparere
unum
,
cuius
sint
plurima
mixta

et
magis
in
promptu
primaque
in
fronte
locata
.
quod
tamen
a
vera
longe
ratione
repulsumst
;
conveniebat
enim
fruges
quoque
saepe
,
minaci

robore
cum
in
saxi
franguntur
,
mittere
signum

sanguinis
aut
aliquid
,
nostro
quae
corpore
aluntur
.
cum
lapidi
in
lapidem
terimus
,
manare
cruorem

consimili
ratione
herbis
quoque
saepe
decebat
,
et
latices
dulcis
guttas
similique
sapore

mittere
,
lanigerae
quali
sunt
ubere
lactis
,
scilicet
et
glebis
terrarum
saepe
friatis

herbarum
genera
et
fruges
frondesque
videri

dispertita
inter
terram
latitare
minute
,
postremo
in
lignis
cinerem
fumumque
videri
,
cum
praefracta
forent
,
ignisque
latere
minutos
.
quorum
nil
fieri
quoniam
manifesta
docet
res
,
scire
licet
non
esse
in
rebus
res
ita
mixtas
,
verum
semina
multimodis
inmixta
latere

multarum
rerum
in
rebus
communia
debent
.
'
At
saepe
in
magnis
fit
montibus
'
inquis
'
ut
altis

arboribus
vicina
cacumina
summa
terantur

inter
se
validis
facere
id
cogentibus
austris
,
donec
flammai
fulserunt
flore
coorto
. '
scilicet
et
non
est
lignis
tamen
insitus
ignis
,
verum
semina
sunt
ardoris
multa
,
terendo

quae
cum
confluxere
,
creant
incendia
silvis
.
quod
si
facta
foret
silvis
abscondita
flamma
,
non
possent
ullum
tempus
celarier
ignes
,
conficerent
volgo
silvas
,
arbusta
cremarent
.
iamne
vides
igitur
,
paulo
quod
diximus
ante
,
permagni
referre
eadem
primordia
saepe

cum
quibus
et
quali
positura
contineantur

et
quos
inter
se
dent
motus
accipiantque
,
atque
eadem
paulo
inter
se
mutata
creare

ignes
et
lignum
?
quo
pacto
verba
quoque
ipsa

inter
se
paulo
mutatis
sunt
elementis
,
cum
ligna
atque
ignes
distincta
voce
notemus
.
Denique
iam
quae
cumque
in
rebus
cernis
apertis

si
fieri
non
posse
putas
,
quin
materiai

corpora
consimili
natura
praedita
fingas
,
hac
ratione
tibi
pereunt
primordia
rerum
:
fiet
uti
risu
tremulo
concussa
cachinnent

et
lacrimis
salsis
umectent
ora
genasque
.

Right here remains
A certain slender means to skulk from truth,
Which Anaxagoras takes unto himself,
Who holds that all things lurk commixed with all
While that one only comes to view, of which
The bodies exceed in number all the rest,
And lie more close to hand and at the fore-
A notion banished from true reason far.
For then 'twere meet that kernels of the grains
Should oft, when crunched between the might of stones,
Give forth a sign of blood, or of aught else
Which in our human frame is fed; and that
Rock rubbed on rock should yield a gory ooze.
Likewise the herbs ought oft to give forth drops
Of sweet milk, flavoured like the uddered sheep's;
Indeed we ought to find, when crumbling up
The earthy clods, there herbs, and grains, and leaves,
All sorts dispersed minutely in the soil;
Lastly we ought to find in cloven wood
Ashes and smoke and bits of fire there hid.
But since fact teaches this is not the case,
'Tis thine to know things are not mixed with things
Thuswise; but seeds, common to many things,
Commixed in many ways, must lurk in things.
"But often it happens on skiey hills" thou sayest,
"That neighbouring tops of lofty trees are rubbed
One against other, smote by the blustering south,
Till all ablaze with bursting flower of flame."
Good sooth- yet fire is not ingraft in wood,
But many are the seeds of heat, and when
Rubbing together they together flow,
They start the conflagrations in the forests.
Whereas if flame, already fashioned, lay
Stored up within the forests, then the fires
Could not for any time be kept unseen,
But would be laying all the wildwood waste
And burning all the boscage. Now dost see
(Even as we said a little space above)
How mightily it matters with what others,
In what positions these same primal germs
Are bound together? And what motions, too,
They give and get among themselves? how, hence,
The same, if altered 'mongst themselves, can body
Both igneous and ligneous objects forth-
Precisely as these words themselves are made
By somewhat altering their elements,
Although we mark with name indeed distinct
The igneous from the ligneous. Once again,
If thou suppose whatever thou beholdest,
Among all visible objects, cannot be,
Unless thou feign bodies of matter endowed
With a like nature,- by thy vain device
For thee will perish all the germs of things:
'Twill come to pass they'll laugh aloud, like men,
Shaken asunder by a spasm of mirth,
Or moisten with salty tear-drops cheeks and chins.
23
Nunc
age
,
quod
super
est
,
cognosce
et
clarius
audi
.
nec
me
animi
fallit
quam
sint
obscura
;
sed
acri

percussit
thyrso
laudis
spes
magna
meum
cor

et
simul
incussit
suavem
mi
in
pectus
amorem

Musarum
,
quo
nunc
instinctus
mente
vigenti

avia
Pieridum
peragro
loca
nullius
ante

trita
solo
.
iuvat
integros
accedere
fontis

atque
haurire
iuvatque
novos
decerpere
flores

insignemque
meo
capiti
petere
inde
coronam
,
unde
prius
nulli
velarint
tempora
Musae
;
primum
quod
magnis
doceo
de
rebus
et
artis

religionum
animum
nodis
exsolvere
pergo
,
deinde
quod
obscura
de
re
tam
lucida
pango

carmina
musaeo
contingens
cuncta
lepore
.
id
quoque
enim
non
ab
nulla
ratione
videtur
;
sed
vel
uti
pueris
absinthia
taetra
medentes

cum
dare
conantur
,
prius
oras
pocula
circum

contingunt
mellis
dulci
flavoque
liquore
,
ut
puerorum
aetas
inprovida
ludificetur

labrorum
tenus
,
interea
perpotet
amarum

absinthi
laticem
deceptaque
non
capiatur
,
sed
potius
tali
facto
recreata
valescat
,
sic
ego
nunc
,
quoniam
haec
ratio
plerumque
videtur

tristior
esse
quibus
non
est
tractata
,
retroque

volgus
abhorret
ab
hac
,
volui
tibi
suaviloquenti

carmine
Pierio
rationem
exponere
nostram

et
quasi
musaeo
dulci
contingere
melle
,
si
tibi
forte
animum
tali
ratione
tenere

versibus
in
nostris
possem
,
dum
perspicis
omnem

naturam
rerum
,
qua
constet
compta
figura
.

THE INFINITY OF THE UNIVERSE
Now learn of what remains! More keenly hear!
And for myself, my mind is not deceived
How dark it is: But the large hope of praise
Hath strook with pointed thyrsus through my heart;
On the same hour hath strook into my breast
Sweet love of the Muses, wherewith now instinct,
I wander afield, thriving in sturdy thought,
Through unpathed haunts of the Pierides,
Trodden by step of none before. I joy
To come on undefiled fountains there,
To drain them deep; I joy to pluck new flowers,
To seek for this my head a signal crown
From regions where the Muses never yet
Have garlanded the temples of a man:
First, since I teach concerning mighty things,
And go right on to loose from round the mind
The tightened coils of dread religion;
Next, since, concerning themes so dark, I frame
Songs so pellucid, touching all throughout
Even with the Muses' charm- which, as 'twould seem,
Is not without a reasonable ground:
But as physicians, when they seek to give
Young boys the nauseous wormwood, first do touch
The brim around the cup with the sweet juice
And yellow of the honey, in order that
The thoughtless age of boyhood be cajoled
As far as the lips, and meanwhile swallow down
The wormwood's bitter draught, and, though befooled,
Be yet not merely duped, but rather thus
Grow strong again with recreated health:
So now I too (since this my doctrine seems
In general somewhat woeful unto those
Who've had it not in hand, and since the crowd
Starts back from it in horror) have desired
To expound our doctrine unto thee in song
Soft-speaking and Pierian, and, as 'twere,
To touch it with sweet honey of the Muse-
If by such method haply I might hold
The mind of thee upon these lines of ours,
Till thou see through the nature of all things,
And how exists the interwoven frame.
24
Sed
quoniam
docui
solidissima
materiai

corpora
perpetuo
volitare
invicta
per
aevom
,
nunc
age
,
summai
quaedam
sit
finis
eorum

nec
ne
sit
,
evolvamus
;
item
quod
inane
repertumst

seu
locus
ac
spatium
,
res
in
quo
quaeque
gerantur
,
pervideamus
utrum
finitum
funditus
omne

constet
an
immensum
pateat
vasteque
profundum
.
Omne
quod
est
igitur
nulla
regione
viarum

finitumst
;
namque
extremum
debebat
habere
.
extremum
porro
nullius
posse
videtur

esse
,
nisi
ultra
sit
quod
finiat
,
ut
videatur

quo
non
longius
haec
sensus
natura
sequatur
.
nunc
extra
summam
quoniam
nihil
esse
fatendum
,
non
habet
extremum
,
caret
ergo
fine
modoque
.
nec
refert
quibus
adsistas
regionibus
eius
;
usque
adeo
,
quem
quisque
locum
possedit
,
in
omnis

tantundem
partis
infinitum
omne
relinquit
.
Praeterea
si
iam
finitum
constituatur

omne
quod
est
spatium
,
si
quis
procurrat
ad
oras

ultimus
extremas
iaciatque
volatile
telum
,
id
validis
utrum
contortum
viribus
ire

quo
fuerit
missum
mavis
longeque
volare
,
an
prohibere
aliquid
censes
obstareque
posse
?
alterutrum
fatearis
enim
sumasque
necessest
.
quorum
utrumque
tibi
effugium
praecludit
et
omne

cogit
ut
exempta
concedas
fine
patere
.
nam
sive
est
aliquid
quod
probeat
efficiatque

quo
minus
quo
missum
est
veniat
finique
locet
se
,
sive
foras
fertur
,
non
est
a
fine
profectum
.
hoc
pacto
sequar
atque
,
oras
ubi
cumque
locaris

extremas
,
quaeram
:
quid
telo
denique
fiet
?
fiet
uti
nusquam
possit
consistere
finis

effugiumque
fugae
prolatet
copia
semper
.
Praeterea
spatium
summai
totius
omne

undique
si
inclusum
certis
consisteret
oris

finitumque
foret
,
iam
copia
materiai

undique
ponderibus
solidis
confluxet
ad
imum

nec
res
ulla
geri
sub
caeli
tegmine
posset

nec
foret
omnino
caelum
neque
lumina
solis
,
quippe
ubi
materies
omnis
cumulata
iaceret

ex
infinito
iam
tempore
subsidendo
.
at
nunc
ni
mirum
requies
data
principiorum

corporibus
nullast
,
quia
nil
est
funditus
imum
,
quo
quasi
confluere
et
sedes
ubi
ponere
possint
.
semper
in
adsiduo
motu
res
quaeque
geruntur

partibus
in
cunctis
,
infernaque
suppeditantur

ex
infinito
cita
corpora
materiai
.
Postremo
ante
oculos
res
rem
finire
videtur
;
aer
dissaepit
collis
atque
aera
montes
,
terra
mare
et
contra
mare
terras
terminat
omnis
;
omne
quidem
vero
nihil
est
quod
finiat
extra
.

But since I've taught that bodies of matter, made
Completely solid, hither and thither fly
Forevermore unconquered through all time,
Now come, and whether to the sum of them
There be a limit or be none, for thee
Let us unfold; likewise what has been found
To be the wide inane, or room, or space
Wherein all things soever do go on,
Let us examine if it finite be
All and entire, or reach unmeasured round
And downward an illimitable profound.
Thus, then, the All that is is limited
In no one region of its onward paths,
For then 'tmust have forever its beyond.
And a beyond 'tis seen can never be
For aught, unless still further on there be
A somewhat somewhere that may bound the same-
So that the thing be seen still on to where
The nature of sensation of that thing
Can follow it no longer. Now because
Confess we must there's naught beside the sum,
There's no beyond, and so it lacks all end.
It matters nothing where thou post thyself,
In whatsoever regions of the same;
Even any place a man has set him down
Still leaves about him the unbounded all
Outward in all directions; or, supposing
A moment the all of space finite to be,
If some one farthest traveller runs forth
Unto the extreme coasts and throws ahead
A flying spear, is't then thy wish to think
It goes, hurled off amain, to where 'twas sent
And shoots afar, or that some object there
Can thwart and stop it? For the one or other
Thou must admit and take. Either of which
Shuts off escape for thee, and does compel
That thou concede the all spreads everywhere,
Owning no confines. Since whether there be
Aught that may block and check it so it comes
Not where 'twas sent, nor lodges in its goal,
Or whether borne along, in either view
'Thas started not from any end. And so
I'll follow on, and whereso'er thou set
The extreme coasts, I'll query, "what becomes
Thereafter of thy spear?" 'Twill come to pass
That nowhere can a world's-end be, and that
The chance for further flight prolongs forever
The flight itself. Besides, were all the space
Of the totality and sum shut in
With fixed coasts, and bounded everywhere,
Then would the abundance of world's matter flow
Together by solid weight from everywhere
Still downward to the bottom of the world,
Nor aught could happen under cope of sky,
Nor could there be a sky at all or sun-
Indeed, where matter all one heap would lie,
By having settled during infinite time.
But in reality, repose is given
Unto no bodies 'mongst the elements,
Because there is no bottom whereunto
They might, as 'twere, together flow, and where
They might take up their undisturbed abodes.
In endless motion everything goes on
Forevermore; out of all regions, even
Out of the pit below, from forth the vast,
Are hurtled bodies evermore supplied.